From: Juergen Daubert <juergen.daubert@t-online.de>
  To  : <masqmail@marmaro.de>
  Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:56:05 +0200

Re: [masqmail] What masqmail intends to be

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 08:45:42PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> [2010-07-16 18:20] Juergen Daubert <juergen.daubert@t-online.de>
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 02:26:39PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> > > [2010-07-16 12:43] Juergen Daubert <juergen.daubert@t-online.de>
> > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 01:05:02AM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > I guess masqmail has never
> > > > delivered direct to the recipient of a mail outside the local network. 
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure what you want to say with this sentence. If you meant the
> > > possibility to do so, you are wrong. See masqmail.route(5):
> > 
> > Sorry, was not clear here. Sure, masqmail can deliver directly but I
> > guess that most/all masqmail users are sending from a host which
> > is not resolvable via DNS and therefore any properly configured SMTP
> > server will reject their mails. So in practice masqmail delivers most
> > of its external mail to the mailhub of a provider.
> 
> Okay, now it's clear. I agree fully.
> 
> 
> 
> > > > > Local delivery will be available by default with 0.3.0. Masqmail will
> > > > > listen on `localhost:25' by default. This would collide with the
> > > > > --disable-smtp-server option.
> > > > 
> > > > Oops, what do you mean with by default? It listen to localhost:25 even
> > > > if not configured to do so in masqmail.conf with listen_addresses?
> > > 
> > > Yes. I'll introduce this with 0.3.0 (if there isn't one who convinces
> > > me to not do so). The reason is that there are MUAs that submit mail
> > > only via SMTP to localhost:25. Pine seems to be an example for that.
> > > Probably Thunderbird too, if it should use the local MTA. By doing
> > > this change, we have a convenient basic setup that only requires to
> > > set host_name in masqmail.conf. This is appealing IMO.
> > 
> > Hmm, no no no ;) What if I want a setup where masqmail is listening 
> > only on e.g. 192.168.0.1 but not on 127.0.0.1? 
> 
> No problem, set `listen_addresses' to "192.168.0.1:25".
> 
> I think we've got our wires crossed (in German: ``aneinander vorbei
> reden'').

Indeed :)

> Everything is still as it was, except:
> if `listen_addresses' is not included in masqmail.conf, then it is set
> to "localhost:25".

Now I get it, that's of course a nice. I thought that your idea was 
to always listen at localhost:25 regardless of a listen_addresses 
setting in masqmail.conf. 


Greetings
Juergen

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