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  From: markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de>
  To  : <masqmail@marmaro.de>
  Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:45:42 +0200

Re: [masqmail] What masqmail intends to be

[2010-07-16 18:20] Juergen Daubert <juergen.daubert@t-online.de>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 02:26:39PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> > [2010-07-16 12:43] Juergen Daubert <juergen.daubert@t-online.de>
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 01:05:02AM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > I guess masqmail has never
> > > delivered direct to the recipient of a mail outside the local network. 
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you want to say with this sentence. If you meant the
> > possibility to do so, you are wrong. See masqmail.route(5):
> 
> Sorry, was not clear here. Sure, masqmail can deliver directly but I
> guess that most/all masqmail users are sending from a host which
> is not resolvable via DNS and therefore any properly configured SMTP
> server will reject their mails. So in practice masqmail delivers most
> of its external mail to the mailhub of a provider.

Okay, now it's clear. I agree fully.



> > > > Local delivery will be available by default with 0.3.0. Masqmail will
> > > > listen on `localhost:25' by default. This would collide with the
> > > > --disable-smtp-server option.
> > > 
> > > Oops, what do you mean with by default? It listen to localhost:25 even
> > > if not configured to do so in masqmail.conf with listen_addresses?
> > 
> > Yes. I'll introduce this with 0.3.0 (if there isn't one who convinces
> > me to not do so). The reason is that there are MUAs that submit mail
> > only via SMTP to localhost:25. Pine seems to be an example for that.
> > Probably Thunderbird too, if it should use the local MTA. By doing
> > this change, we have a convenient basic setup that only requires to
> > set host_name in masqmail.conf. This is appealing IMO.
> 
> Hmm, no no no ;) What if I want a setup where masqmail is listening 
> only on e.g. 192.168.0.1 but not on 127.0.0.1? 

No problem, set `listen_addresses' to "192.168.0.1:25".

I think we've got our wires crossed (in German: ``aneinander vorbei
reden'').

Everything is still as it was, except:
if `listen_addresses' is not included in masqmail.conf, then it is set
to "localhost:25".

This makes a masqmail setup with just `host_name' in masqmail.conf
possible.

Did it became clear now?

Do you still disagree?


meillo


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